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I completely blame you for this, [profile] missfoxie

Can some kind person/people please recommend me a Helen Mirren film? All I have in my home is Gosford Park, which I watched yesterday while lying in a pool of my own illness (metaphorically speaking only, there was no actual pool) and promptly fell head over heels with her. 

So. Aaaaaany film at all, preferably with some form of angst. Thanking you all very kindly, oh wonderful people I know.

There would have been an accompanying poll but lj screwed around with me and I have to go and lie down again now, so instead I shall give you the questions and maybe you can tell me in the comments? With your helpful Helen Mirren film suggestions? *puppy eyes*

1) Favourite actor/actress (or one of them, I know it's difficult to choose!)
2) Favourite scene said person has done.

I was going to put this next bit behind a cut, but I feel it's important for you all to read:

I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the last couple of memes I've done, because they've meant I've conversed with all of you lovely people and you all really do make me smile and giggle and make me feel better when my own body is conspiring against me. I guess what I mean is that I'm glad I've met youuu, all of you crazy people, even the ones I've not spoken to a lot or have just met recently, and that talking to you or reading things you've written genuinely does make me all yaye. So thank you, for being brilliant people. That is all.

I'm very sorry. I'm hormonal and emotional and my head hurts. Sorry if that last paragraph sounds a tad crazed.

 

Date: 2007-01-31 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballion.livejournal.com
You should definitly watch "Calendar Girls". And if you want to see Helen Mireen tied to a bed go and watch "Teaching Mrs. Tingle". The movie's bad though.

Date: 2007-02-01 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
I bought Calendar Girls today, actually! I wanted something Mirren-y and I knew it would be the only thing readily available in the shops.

And I've seen Teaching Mrs Tingle; it was on tv a while ago - I agree, the movie was baaaaad, but it had...ahem...certain redeeming features, shall we say? ;-)

Date: 2007-02-01 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballion.livejournal.com
"Calendar Girls" is a fantastic movie. Even my dad likes it and he's usually not a great friend of ( watching ) movies.

Hahaha, I remember watching "Teaching Mrs. Tingle" for the first back in high school and I was talking about those redeeming features and Helen Mirren for a week. My friends really were kinda pissed.

Date: 2007-02-02 05:50 am (UTC)
ext_6725: (Helen Bondage?)
From: [identity profile] featherxquill.livejournal.com

A week? Is that all? Heh, 'Teaching Mrs Tingle' was what got me into Helen, and I think I went on and on about her for about a year, or at least until I found the HMAS online and was able to find a different outlet for it.

TMT isn't an overly good film, I'll agree, but I have a big soft spot for it because it was what intriduced me to the wonderfullness of Helen in the first place.

Date: 2007-01-31 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballion.livejournal.com
Oh and for the poll.

1) Meryl Streep or Harriet Harris
2) Meryl Streep: any scene from "The Hours" and the scene where she's stoned from "Adaptation"

Harriet Harris: That one scene from the "Frasier" episode "Where there's smoke there's fired" which is really hard to explain. They are basicly having dinner at Frasier's and Bebe who's a major nicotine addict explains why she loves smoking so much and while she does that she's just getting completely hot. It's a really funny scene.
And of course Harriet's final scene in "Memento" which is just plain heartbreaking.

Date: 2007-02-01 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
And weirdly, despite not really watching either of the actresses you mentioned, I have seen all except one of the scenes you just mentioned! The Frasier scene was particularly funny.

I've not seen Adaptation. I mean to remedy this shortly.

Date: 2007-02-01 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ballion.livejournal.com
You should really go and watch Adaptation! =)

Date: 2007-01-31 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyuszi.livejournal.com
i'm so sorry you're feeling ill. hopefully it'll go away and you'll be healthy and happy again. :)

hmmm... helen mirren... well, i loved her in the queen, and def check out calendar girls. also, the cook the thief his wife & her lover, and make sure you get a hold of the shakespeare stuff she's done. :)

a) meryl streep and mary mcdonnell (pls don't make me chose!) and ralph fiennes
b) meryl - everything, but my favourite scene would have to be her breaking down in front of jeff daniels' character in the hours. the "unraveling" scene, as i call it. mary - her breakdown in the morgoue by billy's side (bsg) and overall, her breakdown right toward the end of an american clock. simply brilliant! ralph - carrying katherine's body out of the cave in the english patient

apparently i really like them angsty and depressed. :D

Date: 2007-02-01 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
I bought myself Calendar Girls today, to cheer myself up! I'm thinking of buying The Cook... later, when I have some more money.

Okay, I really try to understand what it is about Meryl Streep that people like but I just can't see it. What am I missing? I just don't engage with her when she acts...tell me something to watch to change my mind? Keep in mind that I've seen The Hours and didn't see anything special! *ducks for cover*

And I've seen the Mary moments you've mentioned and particularly agree with The American Clock moment - superb. I think if I had to pick a favourite Laura scene, it would either be the scene with Adama in LDYB part 2 or the short scene in Valley of Darkness, where she's in the brig and the cylons can be heard shooting the crap out of stuff in the distance and she raises her voice just that bit more to shout at the guard to let her out of the cell. Brilliant.

Oh, and Ralph Fiennes? So. Pretty. I liked The English Patient as well; I'm a Kristin Scott-Thomas girl ;-)

Date: 2007-02-01 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyuszi.livejournal.com
yay for calendar girls. it's such a pretty movie. and funny... and sweet in a... well, sweet way. :)

i can't explain meryl. i can't. try out of africa, if you haven't seen it yet. also, sophie's choice and the french lieutenant's woman. she's great in both. you know that thing i like about mary, about how she can transform herself and become the character, well, i think that's what meryl does, but in a slightly different way. neither are afraid to change the way they look, or take up a part that goes against what they are as people. that is, i think, what draws me to both actresses. plus meryl always looks stoned when giving interviews. :D

oh gods yes! that scene in valley of darkness was great. i also loved the way she called after lee "may the gods protect you". i dunno why, but that's one of my all time fave bsg scenes.

I'm a Kristin Scott-Thomas girl

ZOMGS! you too? i have SUCH a girl-crush on her! i always make sure to see everything new she does. and when she speaks french with that nearly flawless accent, i just melt.

Date: 2007-02-02 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
I knoooow, Kristin is amaaaazing. Have you seen Keeping Mum? I love and adore it to tiny little pieces. Her role is just so different from her others and the plot is cracktastically brilliant and yes.

And of course I also love Four Weddings and a Funeral. For obvious reasons - hi, Richard Curtis, you wrote it! - and also because Kristin is so gorgeous and there's also Anna Chancellor. It's like someone just decided to throw a big bundle of good at the page and came up with it!

I am sad to say that I have never heard her speak French! I keep meaning to do something about that, but somehow...it doesn't happen.

Back to BSG: it is usually the little scenes I end up liking. I mean, the big, dramatic give-Mary-a-goddamn-award scenes are, of course, wonderful, but the little ones with little Laura moments are just the icing on the Mary cake.

That analogy seems wrong somehow ;-)

Date: 2007-02-02 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyuszi.livejournal.com
she IS! and of course i've seen keeping mum! because! ZOMGS! i adored her in cromophobia too! you seen that? ralph is in it as well. yummmy yummmy ralph! :D

and, zomgs, you'll have to check out arsene lupin. the movie itself is fun, kinda campy, but she's just breathtaking in it. i keep re-watching it because i love to hear her speak french. she was also in la doublure, but her part was rather small. i'm gonna have to find more of her french movies, i only have a couple.

i love anna chancellor, but somehow i haven't managed to catch four weddings and a funeral. i've no idea why!

i adore the little laura moments. like the way she touched the wall to steady herself in the morgue by billy's side, or how she arranged his hair, the way she shifts her weight from one leg to the other when she's nervous, the way her eyes narrow just a little bit when she doesn't trust someone or isn't sure about something, the way she got adama to do exactly what she wanted in water and he didn't even realize he was being had.

mmmmmmm... mary cake! sounds yummy!

Date: 2007-02-01 06:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] featherxquill.livejournal.com

Ditto to everyone else's suggestions. Also 'Last Orders', 'The Roman Spring of Mrs Stone', any or all 'Prime Suspect's, 'Painted Lady'.

Miranda, and probably the scene is the one in Gideon's Daughter after lunch, when they just hold each other and talk ♥

Helen, the final scenes of 'The Cook..."

Judi Dench, probably the dance in Mrs Brown.

I coiuld go on, but I shan't :)

Date: 2007-02-01 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
Oooh, thank you! Regarding Prime Suspect, can I ask which your personal favourite is? *is randomly nosy*

I love the whole of Gideon's Daughter. Miranda is just so perfect in it.

Judi Dench went to the school that I used to go to. Thought you'd like that piece of trivia! I've not seen Mrs Brown...is that the one where she's...*attempts to remember*...oh god, I want to say Queen Victoria, but that isn't sounding right!

The Cook... is pretty high on my list of things to buy at the moment!

Date: 2007-02-02 05:46 am (UTC)
ext_6725: (Helen Asparagus)
From: [identity profile] featherxquill.livejournal.com

The first one. Without a doubt. The second and third are rather good, too, but the first one is the best. It's Lynda LaPlant's original. Can't be beat :). I think she had a hand in the second and third as well, which is why I say I love those too. They're all good - 5 is lots of awesome - but the ones Lynda worked on are the best :)

Hee, yeah, Mrs Brown is Queen Victoria. Also, Billy Connolly is fantastic in it. You should see it. :)

'The Cook...' is a pretty damn uncompromising film. It's magnificient - shamlessly arty, disgustingly violent and painfully human - but it's the kind of thing you'll either love or you'll hate. Very much worth the viewing to decide, though

Date: 2007-02-02 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
Okay, say I can afford to buy three Helen things (which, as it happens, I can - isn't that odd?) and two choices have been made - 'The Cook...' and the first Prime Suspect. Say also that option number three is possibly the second Prime Suspect. Would you agree with these three options, or would you point me in a different direction?

Yes, I am aware I am being weirdly reliant on other people's opinions. Do you mind?

Shamelessly arty things usually get on with me! *waits impatiently for next bit of money to arrive*

Date: 2007-02-03 02:23 am (UTC)
ext_6725: (Helen pretty&witty)
From: [identity profile] featherxquill.livejournal.com

I think those are definitely a good three options :).

I don't know how much luck you'll have finding the PS series in stand alone bits, though. You might be able to get them like that on Amazon, I suppose, but here - at least in stores - they come in a box sext apart from the 7th, which is probably not even out here on dvd yet (who knows? I got mine on Amazon since I live in the ass end of the world, lol).

Hehe, of course I don't mind!

Losing Chase is also a brilliant one. If you're buying on Amazon you can probably get it. Femslashy and awesome. Don't know if I mentioned it before, and I'm too lazy to check ;)

Date: 2007-02-02 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cecile-volanges.livejournal.com
My favourite Helen performance is Elizabeth 1...you must watch that one. She is utterly amazing in it. I loved her before that but that refuelled the love in a big way! It's a really good miniseries too, Jermey Pinkcastle and Hugh Dancy are fabulous too.
Tell what you think of Calendar Girls! She's adorable in that.

Fave actor/actress....ohhhhhh Moog, can I have a few???

Miranda Richardson - 'Damage' final scenes and 'Dance To The Music Of Time' - the scene at the bottom of the steps where she's just been revealed as Simon Russell Beale's fiancee and the scene by the church in 'Gideon's Daughter'

Johnny Depp - in 'Blow' the scene where he finds out Barbara is ill...also the final scene with his 'daughter'... The final scene with Freddie Highmore in 'Finding Neverland'...

Juliet Stevenson - on film it would be the breakdown scene in 'Truly, Madly, Deeply' but on stage it would be her scene with Trigorin where she begs him to stay in 'The Seagull', her scene in the attic in 'The Alice Trilogy' and her final breakdown also in 'The Alice Trilogy'

Rupert Graves - His crying scene when he's ill in 'The Forsyte Saga: To Let', on stage 'The Exonerated' where he's describing his treatment in jail.

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Just want to also say that I LOVE KRISTIN SCOTT THOMAS TOO!! She was utterly heartbreaking in The Seagull.

Moog, I loves you and your emotional rants....I think you're lovely

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Date: 2007-02-02 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
Ooooh darling, I watched Calendar Girls this afternoon with my mother! I'd actually seen it a few years ago but didn't enjoy it then - I think that was because of where I saw it/who I was with - but this time, I adored it! It was marvellous! *glee face* And so sweeeeet. And Helen was a goddess and everything was lovely except Julie Walters who I just don't like.

Is Blow your favourite Johnny performance then? Hmm. I was really underwhelmed by the whole thing. If I were to pick, I'd go for Ed Wood, I think. Something about the optimism and child-like nature of the character struck me, but Johnny makes it something slightly more...I don't know, I'm probably talking rubbish.

Oooh, and I was given Truly Madly Deeply for Christmas! I shall be watching it soon! I watched Garden State last night - the film itself didn't make me go 'wow', and Zach Braff is a pretentious little prat when he's not in Scrubs, I have just discovered, but Natalie Portman! She was wonderful! I love her! Thank you for purchasing it for meeee!

Your Miranda choices - yes. Very much yes. As for Rupert Graves - I really do need to see The Forsyte Saga!

Will there be a long lj post about the Londoning and the plays and Kristin the darling? There should be. On this subject, did I ask you if you'd seen Line of Beauty? I can't remember if we discussed it when we talked about Hayley Atwell - oh, and did you think I was right to judge her a Fran-clone?

This comment is a little bit long. I sorryful!

Loves youuuu toooo, my lovely lovely darlink.

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Date: 2007-02-02 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cecile-volanges.livejournal.com
Oohhhhh but long comments are funnnnnnnn!!

Ok, hmmm, lots of things to say...where do I begin?

I will, of course, be doing a long old rant about London, just try and stop me ;) Shall tell you in such detail about Kristin, it will almost seem like you were there...

YOU HAVE TRULY MADLY DEEPLY??? YOU ARE GOING TO WATCH AND SEE THE JULIET WONDER?? Oh my god, I'm so excited, I can't tell you...

I think Blow probably is my fave Johnny performance...(along with Sleepy Hollow, Finding Neverland, The Libertine...the list goes on...) I don't really know why...those two scenes probably...just found him extremely truthful and affecting in it. Perhaps he put a lot of himself into the role, more than usual? And you're so not talking rubbish about Ed Wood, he is heartbreakingly childlike in it, it's beautiful and sad all at the same time.

Oh nooo, you're weren't keen on Garden State...I think I actually am in love with the film, you see. I've never seen Zach Braff on Scrubs but ME LOVE HIM in Garden State...you loved Nat, yeyyyyy!! Isn't she so tiny in it? I love her...she's adorable...I just bought the soundtrack in London too...love it.

Yey for Calendar Girls too! I love her when she wins the cake prize thing and laughs like a mad loon. That stuck out for me cos I just thought her joy was fabulous.

Watch The Forsyte Saga indeed madam! I haven't seen The Line Of Beauty but I would like to. Is it on dvd? I guess cos I'm so close to myself I wasn't sure if Hayley acted like me...and she's definitely quite amazingly more beautiful than me!!

Off to rant on London...

Loves you my darling one

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Date: 2007-02-14 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodhi-chenrezig.livejournal.com
Well the The Queen comes to recent mind. She rocks in it.

Date: 2007-02-14 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
I saw that at the cinema :-D

She was rather brilliant, wasn't she? The Bafta was definitely deserved.

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