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moogingThere is no cohesive structure to this post! Never mind.
I should say, first of all, that Charles and Sebastian are two of my favourite characters ever to, er, charact (what?), and this means that I tend to be a bit stringent on what I'm looking for in a televisual/film portrayal of them. I CAN'T HELP IT. And it's not just in the film, either: this is probably slightly sacrilegious, but I don't think Anthony Andrews' performance as Sebastian in the TV series is as pitch-perfect as it is often heralded to be - I mean, I love him, and his Sebastian makes me cry like a tiny tiny child, but there are times when, I don't know, something's just off for me. I find him almost too upper-class, if that makes any sense at all - I know he's aristocracy, and all, but the Sebastian in my head is a bit more deprecating of that side of himself. WHATEVER, SELF, YOU MAKE NO SENSE.
Anyway. I liked Ben Whishaw as Sebastian in that I liked how his Sebastian dealt with the whole upper-class lifestyle - like, it was what he was used to, and how he was brought up, and how he knew to respond to situations, but it wasn't what he wanted. However (GOD, WHY SO PICKY, MOOG), he was almost too vulnerable for me. Don't get me wrong, I love his little sad skinny face (LIKE A WHIPPET!), but maybe not for Sebastian? I kind of thought of Sebastian as less fragile.
MORE IMPORTANTLY: THE KISS THE KISS THE FREAKING FREAKING KISS. YES PLEASE. MORE OF THAT. Just - just the way they are both being ridiculous with all the different types of alcohol, and then Sebastian leans in, and Charles kind of slightly tenses up and then kisses him back, I swear he does, and then the way they are both just sitting in companionable silence afterwards, MY HEART, YOU GUYS, I CANNOT TAKE IT.
I won't go into the MANY issues I had with this film - for example, no, film people, Julia does not go to Venice - but I will say that if you're making a film, make a film: don't try and cram in everything from the book. It's a film. It is never going to be an exact replica, and it'll be a better end product in its own medium if you you cut stuff. It pains me as much as anyone to see bits I especially cherish from books disappear in films, but, you know, if it's done to make the film better on its own merits, then I think that's fine.
Before I stop talking about this film - because it makes me sliiightly ranty, lol, did you notice - I will say that FNNNNG MATTHEW GOODE, YOU ARE REALLY ATTRACTIVE, AND I LOVED YOU AS CHARLES, AND, ALSO, AJDJABFJKABFKAJB. There was one moment, when Michael Gambon was being faithified on his death bed, and Charles was standing in the corner watching this, and watching Julia pray at the end of the bed, and when Gambon, idk, accepted Christ or whatever it was that he did, and Julia was grateful, just, god, the look in Charles' eyes made me go a little bit floopy and I had to put my head under my blanket for a little while until I could cope with things again.
I ALSO HIGHLY APPROVED OF THAT SCENE WHERE SEBASTIAN WANDERS AROUND NAKED AND THEN HALF-NAKED AND THEN ANGSTY AND SHAKING IN FRONT OF CHARLES. HIGHLY APPROVED. Although, it did take the place, I think, of that amazing scene where Sebastian cries on the stairs, which is one of my favourite things ever, even though it makes me go DDD:
A brief summary of my other thoughts:
- lol Emma Thompson I love you, but you were miscast.
- Michael Gambon, I can't stand you, you are miscast in everything (but I fully expect Half Blood Prince to make me cry regardless of this fact in July)
- GAY FROLICKING IN THE FOUNTAIN WILL NEVER NOT BE AMAZING
- I preferred this Anthony Blanche to the television version, although I will admit that approximately 99% of that is because the film version was REALLY ATTRACTIVE.
- On the behind-the-scenes things, everyone talks about how Charles is this massively unsympathetic character, and I just don't see that. What are your thoughts, internet?
- AJSBKJABFJKA MOROCCO, THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY, EXCEPT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER MOMENT WHERE MATTHEW GOODE SMASHED UP MY HEART WHEN HE APOLOGISED TO SEBASTIAN, AFGH AFGH AFGH OH MY GOD.
- Oh Castle Howard, how many times did I visit you on school trips? A: many, many times.
- I really, really hated the fact that they made the relationships between Charles and Julia, and Charles and Sebastian go all love-triangle-y. THAT IS WRONG, FILM PEOPLE. To my eyes, it was very much Charles whole-heartedly loving Sebastian, whether he realised it or not, and then, later, whole-heartedly loving Julia. NOT AT THE SAME TIME. ajbdzvkjsdb
In conclusion, many thoughts, not all of them good, Goode is good, gay is pretty.
Also, I saw Watchmen last weekend, which I should say words about, but apparently all I am capable of doing this evening is sitting in my dressing gown, eating chocolate and reading fic until my eyes fall out, so suffice it to say that I really, really enjoyed it and have since bought the graphic novel, which I am in the middle of reading. The main thing I wish to say on the matter is that Ozymandias is about 81273816381 times prettier in the film (OH LOOK IT'S MATTHEW GOODE), and also the spitting image of the Vesuvius Club-era Lucifer Box in my head, and, er, what else? Oh dear, it seems I am going to talk about this, alright, bear with me.
- I... kind of don't get the fascination with Rorschach that everyone seems to have. I mean, I understand it much much more now that I've read his backstory chapter in the graphic novel, which managed to make me cry, well done good works, but, um, I AM NOW AN INTERNET PARIAH. I like him, I just don't love him. CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, INTERNET?
- AJBDKADBK OKAY THE MINUTEMEN (is that what they're called?) I AM IN LOVE WITH THEM. Mainly because afjajbk GAY GAY GAY I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE GAY.
- The opening credits were actually amazing. It was like an instant immersion in this world, but it didn't feel like hideous exposition, and it was pretty - this is a thing that can be said for the film as a whole; it was freaking gorgeous - and SILHOUETTE, YOUR TIME WAS SHORT IN THIS FILM BUT I LOVED YOU NONETHELESS.
- Accidently, I seem to be shipping Ozymandias/Comedian - look, idek, alright? - probably because I find them both REALLY ATTRACTIVE, but what that says about me when one of them is clearly a bit unhinged and awful as a human, and the other one is a megalomaniac with ends-justify-the-means issues going on and a SUPER SEKRIT ARCTIC BASE OF WRONG-DOING is possibly not worth looking into that much.
- OH SILK SPECTRES, YOU ARE BOTH VERY PRETTY
- Voiceover, unf, unf, film/television kink
- DOCTOR MANHATTAN, GET OVER YOURSELF. GOD. Okay, his I-am-blue-and-I-see-all-time-right-now is annoying the crap out of me, I have to say. This may be slightly unfair on my account, but whatever: the Doctor deals with this too, and when he is less angsty than you, you've got a problem.
- I may be writing Adrian/the Doctor. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT, THEN, EH?
I'm sure I have more things to say about this, but they have all gone out of my head. Possibly this is an act of mercy for anyone that is still reading this!
Two more things, before I stop eating this carob bar (people who said this tasted nice lied) and go in search of some other dairy-free good:
- In case anyone missed it who might be interested, I wrote a Merlin fic the other day.
- Rec me some fic! Any fic, any fandom you know I like or think I might be interested in. Just, tell me one of your favourites. In return, er, you can name me a character and I will tell you one person from their fandom that I ship them with, and one crossover ship I would support. Go go go!
I should say, first of all, that Charles and Sebastian are two of my favourite characters ever to, er, charact (what?), and this means that I tend to be a bit stringent on what I'm looking for in a televisual/film portrayal of them. I CAN'T HELP IT. And it's not just in the film, either: this is probably slightly sacrilegious, but I don't think Anthony Andrews' performance as Sebastian in the TV series is as pitch-perfect as it is often heralded to be - I mean, I love him, and his Sebastian makes me cry like a tiny tiny child, but there are times when, I don't know, something's just off for me. I find him almost too upper-class, if that makes any sense at all - I know he's aristocracy, and all, but the Sebastian in my head is a bit more deprecating of that side of himself. WHATEVER, SELF, YOU MAKE NO SENSE.
Anyway. I liked Ben Whishaw as Sebastian in that I liked how his Sebastian dealt with the whole upper-class lifestyle - like, it was what he was used to, and how he was brought up, and how he knew to respond to situations, but it wasn't what he wanted. However (GOD, WHY SO PICKY, MOOG), he was almost too vulnerable for me. Don't get me wrong, I love his little sad skinny face (LIKE A WHIPPET!), but maybe not for Sebastian? I kind of thought of Sebastian as less fragile.
MORE IMPORTANTLY: THE KISS THE KISS THE FREAKING FREAKING KISS. YES PLEASE. MORE OF THAT. Just - just the way they are both being ridiculous with all the different types of alcohol, and then Sebastian leans in, and Charles kind of slightly tenses up and then kisses him back, I swear he does, and then the way they are both just sitting in companionable silence afterwards, MY HEART, YOU GUYS, I CANNOT TAKE IT.
I won't go into the MANY issues I had with this film - for example, no, film people, Julia does not go to Venice - but I will say that if you're making a film, make a film: don't try and cram in everything from the book. It's a film. It is never going to be an exact replica, and it'll be a better end product in its own medium if you you cut stuff. It pains me as much as anyone to see bits I especially cherish from books disappear in films, but, you know, if it's done to make the film better on its own merits, then I think that's fine.
Before I stop talking about this film - because it makes me sliiightly ranty, lol, did you notice - I will say that FNNNNG MATTHEW GOODE, YOU ARE REALLY ATTRACTIVE, AND I LOVED YOU AS CHARLES, AND, ALSO, AJDJABFJKABFKAJB. There was one moment, when Michael Gambon was being faithified on his death bed, and Charles was standing in the corner watching this, and watching Julia pray at the end of the bed, and when Gambon, idk, accepted Christ or whatever it was that he did, and Julia was grateful, just, god, the look in Charles' eyes made me go a little bit floopy and I had to put my head under my blanket for a little while until I could cope with things again.
I ALSO HIGHLY APPROVED OF THAT SCENE WHERE SEBASTIAN WANDERS AROUND NAKED AND THEN HALF-NAKED AND THEN ANGSTY AND SHAKING IN FRONT OF CHARLES. HIGHLY APPROVED. Although, it did take the place, I think, of that amazing scene where Sebastian cries on the stairs, which is one of my favourite things ever, even though it makes me go DDD:
A brief summary of my other thoughts:
- lol Emma Thompson I love you, but you were miscast.
- Michael Gambon, I can't stand you, you are miscast in everything (but I fully expect Half Blood Prince to make me cry regardless of this fact in July)
- GAY FROLICKING IN THE FOUNTAIN WILL NEVER NOT BE AMAZING
- I preferred this Anthony Blanche to the television version, although I will admit that approximately 99% of that is because the film version was REALLY ATTRACTIVE.
- On the behind-the-scenes things, everyone talks about how Charles is this massively unsympathetic character, and I just don't see that. What are your thoughts, internet?
- AJSBKJABFJKA MOROCCO, THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY, EXCEPT THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER MOMENT WHERE MATTHEW GOODE SMASHED UP MY HEART WHEN HE APOLOGISED TO SEBASTIAN, AFGH AFGH AFGH OH MY GOD.
- Oh Castle Howard, how many times did I visit you on school trips? A: many, many times.
- I really, really hated the fact that they made the relationships between Charles and Julia, and Charles and Sebastian go all love-triangle-y. THAT IS WRONG, FILM PEOPLE. To my eyes, it was very much Charles whole-heartedly loving Sebastian, whether he realised it or not, and then, later, whole-heartedly loving Julia. NOT AT THE SAME TIME. ajbdzvkjsdb
In conclusion, many thoughts, not all of them good, Goode is good, gay is pretty.
Also, I saw Watchmen last weekend, which I should say words about, but apparently all I am capable of doing this evening is sitting in my dressing gown, eating chocolate and reading fic until my eyes fall out, so suffice it to say that I really, really enjoyed it and have since bought the graphic novel, which I am in the middle of reading. The main thing I wish to say on the matter is that Ozymandias is about 81273816381 times prettier in the film (OH LOOK IT'S MATTHEW GOODE), and also the spitting image of the Vesuvius Club-era Lucifer Box in my head, and, er, what else? Oh dear, it seems I am going to talk about this, alright, bear with me.
- I... kind of don't get the fascination with Rorschach that everyone seems to have. I mean, I understand it much much more now that I've read his backstory chapter in the graphic novel, which managed to make me cry, well done good works, but, um, I AM NOW AN INTERNET PARIAH. I like him, I just don't love him. CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, INTERNET?
- AJBDKADBK OKAY THE MINUTEMEN (is that what they're called?) I AM IN LOVE WITH THEM. Mainly because afjajbk GAY GAY GAY I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE GAY.
- The opening credits were actually amazing. It was like an instant immersion in this world, but it didn't feel like hideous exposition, and it was pretty - this is a thing that can be said for the film as a whole; it was freaking gorgeous - and SILHOUETTE, YOUR TIME WAS SHORT IN THIS FILM BUT I LOVED YOU NONETHELESS.
- Accidently, I seem to be shipping Ozymandias/Comedian - look, idek, alright? - probably because I find them both REALLY ATTRACTIVE, but what that says about me when one of them is clearly a bit unhinged and awful as a human, and the other one is a megalomaniac with ends-justify-the-means issues going on and a SUPER SEKRIT ARCTIC BASE OF WRONG-DOING is possibly not worth looking into that much.
- OH SILK SPECTRES, YOU ARE BOTH VERY PRETTY
- Voiceover, unf, unf, film/television kink
- DOCTOR MANHATTAN, GET OVER YOURSELF. GOD. Okay, his I-am-blue-and-I-see-all-time-right-now is annoying the crap out of me, I have to say. This may be slightly unfair on my account, but whatever: the Doctor deals with this too, and when he is less angsty than you, you've got a problem.
- I may be writing Adrian/the Doctor. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT, THEN, EH?
I'm sure I have more things to say about this, but they have all gone out of my head. Possibly this is an act of mercy for anyone that is still reading this!
Two more things, before I stop eating this carob bar (people who said this tasted nice lied) and go in search of some other dairy-free good:
- In case anyone missed it who might be interested, I wrote a Merlin fic the other day.
- Rec me some fic! Any fic, any fandom you know I like or think I might be interested in. Just, tell me one of your favourites. In return, er, you can name me a character and I will tell you one person from their fandom that I ship them with, and one crossover ship I would support. Go go go!
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Date: 2009-03-21 11:52 am (UTC)I saw Sebastian as vulnerable, definitely, but not physically looking vulnerable, if that makes any sense? Like, he was a fragile character, but he wasn't rake-thin, or fragile-looking. IDEK.
ANYWAY. GAY KISSINGGGG
(why the hell were you up at 5:40? Had you not gone to sleep, or were you just up insanely early?)
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Date: 2009-03-21 06:14 pm (UTC)