avec mes souvenirs, j'ai allumé le feu
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moogingSo basically what happened is that I went to see
GUYS
IT HAS EATEN MY FACE
Lets get the big stuff out of the way first. My theory from when we found out that Mal killed herself was that that whole level (the jump from the window ledge) was a dream, but then that was never brought up in the film so I sort of let it go - until the END, seriously, when the credits came up without the spinning top falling the entire audience in my cinema just let out this collective NNNNNNGHHHH NOOOOOOO sort of constipated elephant noise. While this basically bears no further discussion than the entire internet has already given it, I am apparently willing to flog any and all dead horses that come my way, so:
- a) the whole thing was a dream (lovely).
- b) the whole thing really happened and the part from Cobb waking up on the plane onwards was him still stuck in limbo (eeequally lovely)
- c) the entire film was some gigantic metaphor on Christopher Nolan's part about the shared experience of watching a film being like a shared dream (and I freely admit this wasn't something that even crossed my mind until I read some other, slightly more analytically advanced, person's comments in a review somewhere, well done me for being slow)
Thoughts for a)/b): the events at the end, from Cobb waking up on the plane, were very very quick which to my mind suggests at least some sort of unreality - it feels very fantastical, you know, when things whip by like that in films (and this is not proving my film cred in any way but the only thing I can think to compare it to is that chunk from Click, where Adam Sandler's life starts to speed up when he uses the remote too many times, and the point is that this is not what life is supposed to be like and also shut up it was not my choice to watch that movie). Although I guess that lends more credence to option b: the rest of the film never felt to me like it couldn't theoretically be happening but maybe I need a second viewing to catch other hints. IDK.
Then again, if option a was true, would any of the dream extraction thing even be valid in the world that Cobb actually lived in? Maybe he would just be Joe Schmoe like the rest of us, albeit with an extraordinarily hot wife - unless everyone in the film was a dream, and, actually, no, I'm going to go a bit la-la-la-not-listening to this theory because I LIKED the characters in the film and it would be slightly upsetting to think that none of them actually existed outside someone's dream. Which I suppose they don't, seeing as they're fictional and all, but, well, shut up. At least option a gives the most scope for billions and billions of A+ AU fics to be canon.
That's about as thinky as I can get this evening.
I have been singing Je Ne Regrette Rien for days now, thanks, Christopher Nolan.
ALSO: EAMES AND ARTHUR. I am aware that basically the entire LJ audience of this film came away shipping them, but, you know, so did I. Arthur tops. The end. (Except not really the end, because I am writing multiple and ridiculous fics)
Leonardo DiCaprio managed his first performance in years that didn't annoy me! (we do not speak of Revolutionary Road. it was disappointing) Marion Cotillard is ridiculously attractive! I still really love Ellen Page!
Oh god what else do I want to say about this fiiiilm. Right, bullet points:
- ARTHUR AND HIS SUITS
- THE WHOLE KICK DEMONSTRATION
- COBB/ARIADNE
- COBB/MAL
- ARTHUR/ARIADNE
- EAMES/ARIADNE
- ARIADNE/FISCHER
- ~ARTHUR/EAMES~
- I SHIPPED EVERYONE APPARENTLY
- Guys, I just, I really really enjoyed it. Limbo was amazing. Not liking trains! How completely fucked up Cobb was. The lift going through memories! Michael Caine being in all films! kjaakwjebfjhgfs incoherence. So come and talk to me about it!
On a completely unrelated topic, I am in the market for some anime recs. Anything! Anyyything at all. I am in the middle of working my way through Hayao Miyazaki's films, so I already know how A+ they are, but any other suggestions would be welcomed with open arms! I have a couple of films down on my Amazon wishlist already but I always like to know what people on my flist have enjoyed.
Coming soon on a Moog-journal near you: that unpopular fandom opinion meme. Because, like, I apparently want to become a pariah? IDEK.
Also a couple of ludicrous Eames/Arthur fics and that one BBC Sherlock fic I never quite finished. <Hope you are all doing well etc etc etc I SHALL STOP LEAVING EONS BETWEEN POSTS. <333
GUYS
IT HAS EATEN MY FACE
Lets get the big stuff out of the way first. My theory from when we found out that Mal killed herself was that that whole level (the jump from the window ledge) was a dream, but then that was never brought up in the film so I sort of let it go - until the END, seriously, when the credits came up without the spinning top falling the entire audience in my cinema just let out this collective NNNNNNGHHHH NOOOOOOO sort of constipated elephant noise. While this basically bears no further discussion than the entire internet has already given it, I am apparently willing to flog any and all dead horses that come my way, so:
- a) the whole thing was a dream (lovely).
- b) the whole thing really happened and the part from Cobb waking up on the plane onwards was him still stuck in limbo (eeequally lovely)
- c) the entire film was some gigantic metaphor on Christopher Nolan's part about the shared experience of watching a film being like a shared dream (and I freely admit this wasn't something that even crossed my mind until I read some other, slightly more analytically advanced, person's comments in a review somewhere, well done me for being slow)
Thoughts for a)/b): the events at the end, from Cobb waking up on the plane, were very very quick which to my mind suggests at least some sort of unreality - it feels very fantastical, you know, when things whip by like that in films (and this is not proving my film cred in any way but the only thing I can think to compare it to is that chunk from Click, where Adam Sandler's life starts to speed up when he uses the remote too many times, and the point is that this is not what life is supposed to be like and also shut up it was not my choice to watch that movie). Although I guess that lends more credence to option b: the rest of the film never felt to me like it couldn't theoretically be happening but maybe I need a second viewing to catch other hints. IDK.
Then again, if option a was true, would any of the dream extraction thing even be valid in the world that Cobb actually lived in? Maybe he would just be Joe Schmoe like the rest of us, albeit with an extraordinarily hot wife - unless everyone in the film was a dream, and, actually, no, I'm going to go a bit la-la-la-not-listening to this theory because I LIKED the characters in the film and it would be slightly upsetting to think that none of them actually existed outside someone's dream. Which I suppose they don't, seeing as they're fictional and all, but, well, shut up. At least option a gives the most scope for billions and billions of A+ AU fics to be canon.
That's about as thinky as I can get this evening.
I have been singing Je Ne Regrette Rien for days now, thanks, Christopher Nolan.
ALSO: EAMES AND ARTHUR. I am aware that basically the entire LJ audience of this film came away shipping them, but, you know, so did I. Arthur tops. The end. (Except not really the end, because I am writing multiple and ridiculous fics)
Leonardo DiCaprio managed his first performance in years that didn't annoy me! (we do not speak of Revolutionary Road. it was disappointing) Marion Cotillard is ridiculously attractive! I still really love Ellen Page!
Oh god what else do I want to say about this fiiiilm. Right, bullet points:
- ARTHUR AND HIS SUITS
- THE WHOLE KICK DEMONSTRATION
- COBB/ARIADNE
- COBB/MAL
- ARTHUR/ARIADNE
- EAMES/ARIADNE
- ARIADNE/FISCHER
- ~ARTHUR/EAMES~
- I SHIPPED EVERYONE APPARENTLY
- Guys, I just, I really really enjoyed it. Limbo was amazing. Not liking trains! How completely fucked up Cobb was. The lift going through memories! Michael Caine being in all films! kjaakwjebfjhgfs incoherence. So come and talk to me about it!
On a completely unrelated topic, I am in the market for some anime recs. Anything! Anyyything at all. I am in the middle of working my way through Hayao Miyazaki's films, so I already know how A+ they are, but any other suggestions would be welcomed with open arms! I have a couple of films down on my Amazon wishlist already but I always like to know what people on my flist have enjoyed.
Coming soon on a Moog-journal near you: that unpopular fandom opinion meme. Because, like, I apparently want to become a pariah? IDEK.
Also a couple of ludicrous Eames/Arthur fics and that one BBC Sherlock fic I never quite finished. <Hope you are all doing well etc etc etc I SHALL STOP LEAVING EONS BETWEEN POSTS. <333
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Date: 2010-08-27 10:55 pm (UTC)Truth be told, I probably would have been a lot more help in terms of anime recommendations about ten years ago (if you ever bump into my younger self by means of time travel, ask her), but I just watched "Tokyo Godfathers" because Satoshi Kon passed away a couple of days ago, and I really quite enjoyed it. I also can't not mention Neon Genesis Evangelion, because that's where my love for mindfuck-y shows and movies comes from.
Also: *clings*